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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 17, 2008 11:48 PM
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Troy McClure,
Due to certain e-mails that have been received, some of us have had to change our e-mail addresses.
The vast majority of us use our PC's for work and personal business. A few of us have opened our e-mail addresses up to the public with unforeseen problems. PC's have had to be replaced because of the damage done.
We've discussed this amongst us and the only common dominator is this site. Many of us have been on the Internet for years and never experienced problems like this.
At this point it appears that land lines are better than PC communication.
I have an alter e-mail address for Arch but I won't post it. He had to have his PC replaced as well. Keep trying the ones that he's posted. Some e-mails are getting through.
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 17, 2008 9:17 PM
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is arch's email address a gmail.com account or is it just "mail.com"
thanks
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 17, 2008 12:37 AM
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tiki789,
I'm on the phone with Dengas. She can't get logged back on but want's to talk with you. Contact Arch, he can contact Dengas.
As a side note, if "pioneer" is still out there please contact Dengas through Arch. "I just found the 2006 and 2007 messages that you sent me on JJ's site."
"Which neighborhood were you talking about delivering papers in?"
"Are you talking about east or west of Mooney Blvd.?"
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 16, 2008 1:14 AM
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tiki for some reason that sounds like more than a 10 to 15 minute jaunt to me??
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 16, 2008 1:12 AM
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what do you mean by "reveal something best"?? I don't understand your wording???
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 15, 2008 6:13 PM
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Tiki, I think the most prudent way would be to e-mail Archangel76 at 13thjuror@mail.com it has been the best way for me an others I know. It insures nothing gets put on this board that could put you in danger or reveal something best for le. to look at first.
Welcome to the board, your interest and help is appreciated. G
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 15, 2008 2:15 PM
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I'm not sure this will help but I heard a story shortly
after the Snelling shooting that Beth. received a threat that she would be a target if marched with Mt. Whitney band . I heard she did march with some security along side.
I do have a POI in mind that fits into the story above and I believe he later live in the east sac. area and
attend American river college
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 11, 2008 11:24 PM
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Sorry but I do not have any hard evidence,but I did drive by both the Snelling home and the Chinowth
trailer park ( Country Manor Mobile home Community)
at 820 s. Chinowth rd. The manager told me the park
has always been for 55 years and older residents.
It would only take about 10 or 15 min. to walk from the Snellings to the trailer park by taking Campus west
across Demaree and then cutting thru some vacant lots
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 10, 2008 11:37 PM
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Do you have the picture of the screen? Very intriguing, especially since Chinowth wasn't in either of the VR's preferred neighborhoods.
As I have just recently been able to re-register, I am happy to see new posters. Tiki789, it sounds like you have been interested in VR for a while. Do you know others in Visalia who may be able to help with new information? I've always felt that someone in Visalia knows who the VR is...do you have any POI's?
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 9, 2008 11:36 PM
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I've lived my whole life in Visalia, I was in my late 20's during the V R time and remember it very well.
I've picked up bits and pieces of info over the years from people in and out of the L E .
I'm sure the aerial photos were taken shortly after
the Snelling murder by the local L.E.
I believed the screen was found on a trailer in the Chinowth Trailer Park.
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 9, 2008 6:11 PM
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Oh my heavens! I was FINALLY able to re-register...maybe others will give it another try. I'm anxious to read what has been going on since I've been unable to respond! I quickly saw that someone who is either from Visalia, or knew the Snellings in the 70's, posted about a screen window being on top of a trailer. I would surely like to know where the trailer was, as the closest trailer park would have been on Chinowth (near Myrtle). Was it on top of a RV type trailer, or one in a trailer park? This COULD BE IMPORTANT.
As the Snelling's air-conditioner went of around 6:00, and the kids at home opened up the windows, it certainly makes me think that the ransacker was there just as soon as Mr. Snelling left for Wednesday night church meetings (at the First Baptist). Mrs. S was at C.O. S. (just a few blocks east of the Snelling home).
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 9, 2008 12:28 PM
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Tiki,
What is your source for the window screen story?
DO/BC: Check developing news in Arizona today for the answer to your question.
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 9, 2008 5:04 AM
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You people are really good at analyzing all of this. Here's a question I have for you that I hope is not off the beaten track, but here goes --
are psychopath's ever very, very young when they commit crimes? I was thinking a young boy could be very strong or clever enough to commit crimes of this nature?
Anyone?
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 9, 2008 4:17 AM
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Tiki,
Was it found by accident or did LE actually take aerial photos around the crime scene?
My second question revolves around VR dragging Beth out of the house and shooting her father. He clearly didn't have the screen in his hands then. Do you think he took the screen off earlier in the evening or on a previous day? He had been in the house that night once before attempting to kidnap Beth. We know her Mom's purse was found outside. But why would he take the screen and why throw it on the roof of that particular trailer?
Ears liked rooftops. Remember Shelby's account of him hanging upside down to look in a window?
Port
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Re: Visalia Ransacker and Ears MO
Nov 9, 2008 2:18 AM
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Little known facts : Beth. Snelling bedroom window
screen was missing and was found by using
aerial photograph. It was found on top of a
mobile home about a half mile away.
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