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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Nov 1, 2008 2:58 PM
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once again I need to point out that (1) not everything was tampered with and (2) SOP for MPs was preserve life first, worry about the crime scene later, (3) inmate did his fair share of tampering with the crime scene.
Ways inmate tampered with the crime scene:
1. laying down partially on top of Colette
2. moaning creating need of MPs to roll him over/check him out
3. struggling with MPs to check on his children (the ones he admitted he already KNEW were dead)
4. staging the crime scene in the first place
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Nov 1, 2008 12:04 PM
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Potter and Bost had a predilection for creating "new" myths in this case. For example, Potter has stated on numerous occasions that "bloody" hairs with their roots intact were found under the "bloody" fingernails of "murdered children." The late Jerry Allen Potter would have probably taken his spooky and misleading terminology up a notch this past Halloween. In addition, Potter claimed that the hairs "didn't match samples of MacDonald's hair." The facts?
1) The two hairs allegedly found under the fingernails of Kimmie and Kristen were hair fragments, so it was impossible for the roots of the hairs to be intact. You're not going to get an intact root from a 5mm hair fragment.
2) The CID could not rule out Jeffrey MacDonald as the source of the two hair fragments because hair fragments are microscopically uncomparable.
I wonder what Potter would have said about the AFIP's DNA test results on those two hair fragments? The hair fragment found under Kimmie's fingernail was most likely animal hair and the hair fragment allegedly found under Kristen's fingernail did not match the DNA profile of either Helena Stoeckley or Greg Mitchell. Ah, the beauty of science.
http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com/
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 16, 2008 1:48 AM
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jtf - Potter and Bost just kept saying the living room had been "cleaned up" by the CID. LOL No doubt, everything was tampered with, but it's quite obvious no life-or-death struggle took place in the living room.
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 15, 2008 10:10 AM
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oh to be a fly on the wall! I'd have loved to see his face too!
I don't understand how even in his seclusion he can continue to believe inmate to be innocent. The story as told in FJ has been stripped away like the layers of an onion - until there is nothing left but the tears!
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 14, 2008 4:18 PM
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Byn: Bost and Potter had the nerve to claim that there was evidence of a physical struggle in the living room and in all 3 bedrooms. This is another example of how confident they were that the general public would never see photographs of the living room and Kimmie's room from multiple angles. I would have paid to have seen the look on Bost's face when Christina first posted the photographs of the living room and Kimmie's room on her website.
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 14, 2008 10:39 AM
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> If you read Fatal Justice, however, you would
> think that Jeffrey MacDonald was a combination > of Bruce Lee and Jason Statham. Given the
> nature of his injuries, such claims are pure
> fantasy.
Not just the nature of his wounds, but the entire scenario of events as described by inmate on April 4, 1970 in the CID interview this claim is pure fantasy.
For example:
How likely is it that Bruce Lee would have been unable to get his feet free of a crocheted afghan?
How likely is it that Bruce Lee would have been unable to get his hands untangled from his worn pj top?
How likely is it that Bruce Lee would have been rendered unconscious by a group of drugged out hippies without putting up much if any fight?
Bruce Lee = Hefty, Hefty, Hefty
Inmate = wimpy, wimpy, wimpy!
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 10, 2008 5:33 PM
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I agree. Colette fought for her life and the lives of her children. She was an extremely brave woman. If you read Fatal Justice, however, you would think that Jeffrey MacDonald was a combination of Bruce Lee and Jason Statham. Given the nature of his injuries, such claims are pure fantasy.
http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com/html/wounds.html
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 10, 2008 12:17 PM
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thanks jtf - got it. She tore it down the front and along the total length of the sleeve - thanks for clearing that up for me. Makes it clearer than ever what an intense fight it must have been, and how hard Colette fought.
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 10, 2008 12:13 PM
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Livvygirl: This figure is a combination of the length of the tear down along the left front seam of the pajama top and the left sleeve. The tear on the left sleeve extended all the way down to the cuff area.
http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com/html/pjs.html
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 10, 2008 9:42 AM
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jtf - in regards to the tear Colette made in the pj top - do you mean 27 inches instead of 72? 72 inches is six feet - too long for a pj top. Small point, I know but it jumped at me, and I wanted to point it out.
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 10, 2008 1:19 AM
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Livvygirl: Fatal Justice is barely worth the price of a roll of toilet paper, much less 4 and a half bucks. The problem with wiping your ass with FJ is that the corners of the book sometimes causes anal irritation, but I digress. The DNA test results were the final nail in the coffin of this poorly researched book. So much for that "mystery hair" being the arm hair of Greg Mitchell. Just another example of how hard Colette fought for her life. How hard, you ask?
1) Colette hit her husband over his left eye with a hairbrush.
2) Colette grabbed the front portion of her husband's pajama top and pulled straight down resulting in a 72 inch tear down the left front seam and left sleeve.
3) Colette tore a hair from her husband's exposed left arm with her left hand.
4) Colette used her fingernails to scratch her husband's exposed chest.
5) Colette slashed her husband's abdomen with the Geneva Forge knife.
http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com/html/timeline.html
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 10, 2008 12:38 AM
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I was recently in the city for a job interview, and actually saw Fatal Justice in one of those bargain bins that people set up on the sidewalk in Manhattan. The going price was $4.47. Goes to show ya....
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 9, 2008 10:50 PM
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Livvygirl: This issue is just one of many reasons why Fatal Justice is a mess. Bost and Potter state that the injuries to Colette, Kimmie, and Kristen were horrific, but then make the absurd argument that Jeffrey MacDonald's injuries were severe and potentially life threatening. The argument is utter nonsense and is at odds with the documented record.
http://www.macdonaldcasefacts.com/
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 9, 2008 4:51 PM
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jtf - sorry, just followed your link and read in detail what was done to Colette. He really beat the crap out of her, didn't he. Reading that made me so angry, all over again, that I'd like to pull the switch on him myself. I can only try to imagine how Colette's family must have felt.
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Re: Fact checking Fatal Justice
Oct 9, 2008 3:54 PM
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jtf - as always, thanks for your knowledge of the case. Appreciate it. It makes sense that Colette would have wounds to her hands also - she fought hard, poor lady.
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