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Re: Now AIG is going to get a total of 150 billion!
Nov 14, 2008 9:19 AM
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Hey Branson! Good to see you back! That's what they have been doing to the victims of hurricane Ike. These people are in limbo....all they want to do is re-build and get back to normal. Haven't been back here in awhile...and I'm surprised to see my post still up. Guess I'll have to post some more. I've heard we are going into a depression...worse than the one in '29. People need to prepare! I also hears that oil could go as high as $300 a barrel. -- Stand up for what you believe in.....even if you have to stand alone.
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Now AIG is going to get a total of 150 billion!
Nov 14, 2008 8:15 AM
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Paulson has decided that AIG needs more to stay afloat. I agree with Connie and Stet that this is outrageous! I would not be half as mad if they were bailing out the auto industry, but an insurance corporation? The Insurance industry is the lowest and most corrupt of any big business. Look what they did to the victims of Katrina...State Farm paid Engineers to falsify reports that the damage was caused by flooding and not wind, thereby leaving thousands unable to rebuild! This is one Corporation that should go under and no one will miss it. But thanks to mummy head Paulson and Dumbya, they can put on more parties!
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Re: After AIG was bailed out at over 8 Billion Dollars
Oct 12, 2008 3:44 PM
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They sure has the gall to do that too...after what Ike did to the Texas coast...and what their policy holders are going through! Hello???? -- Screw Reality....
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After AIG was bailed out at over 8 Billion Dollars
Oct 12, 2008 3:05 PM
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They threw one heck of a bash at a hotel; costing over four- hundred thousand dollars. The bill can be seen at the smoking gun web site I wonder if Georgie boy was invited?
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Oct 8, 2008 7:03 PM
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I know this is late.....but this letter was written by a fellow Texan. But it gives a clear piture what is in store for us now that the bill passed. Read it a weep. October 1, 2008 Senator Cornyn and Hutchison and Representative Quellar, Please vote against the taxpayer bailout of criminal banksters and shark brokers who are in a conspiracy to crash the fraudulent paper US dollar that violates Article 1 Section 10 of the US Constitution which they too created by their criminal banking monopoly in 1913 in the creation of the private Federal Reserve Bank. This all makes sense if you know where these criminals want to take the United States . The criminal global banksters want to issue a new currency, the “Amero,” which will in effect require an agreement between Mexico , Canada and the US . This will destroy what ever is left of the US Constitution. The bailout plan will cause the worthless currency to be rejected by other foreign nations and investors and rejected as the world’s reserve currency. I am sick of hearing the news media and some in Congress say, “if Congress does not pass this Financial Bill credit will tighten and companies will layoff people and jobs will be lost.” When in the last 30 years has the so-called Congress or the so-called “news media” been interested in saving the jobs of the American worker? The Congress and the media have pounded the false and treasonous doctrine of a “borderless world” and a “global economy” down the throats of Americans. Why did all these mortgages fail in the first place? I will tell you, because, people were losing their good jobs and replacing them, if at all, with low paying low skilled jobs. Congress has allowed the export of our nation’s heavy industry and technology by refusing to use constitutional tariffs and has left us with no way to produce wealth or a means to defend ourselves from foreign superior arms and technology. This latest attack upon the fraudulent US dollar is a controlled demolition which started with the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center . And it was done by the same people. On 9/11/01 the criminal federal reserve injected $200 billion into the currency stream and they have been dumping this worthless paper on the market continually in great quantities to “help the markets” ever since. On 9/11/01 they promised they were going to lower the interest rates and keep them low to “rebuild America .” Don’t you remember all that talk? Well then where did all these variable interest rates come from? Is that the kind of banking that rebuilds a nation? Hell no! The American people are in a war alright and the enemy is in New York and Washington and they are entrenched in the Federal Reserve fraudulent money scam and the controlled market system of Wall Street. The enemy’s destination for America is to become a slave state in the “North American Union” and then the “New World Order” controlled completely by global bankocracy without lawful authority of any kind to destroy anyone or any nation who disagrees with them. But these criminals are dependent in some degree on how much Congress will go along with their design. I ask that you stop the further controlled demolition of the already worthless paper currency by voting against the taxpayer bailout of this cabal of international financial criminals who start wars and kill millions to control the world while telling us we cannot drive our cars or barbeque in the back yard because of global warming. I am sick of all their lies about global terrorism and global everything. I ask you to use your delegated authority from the people of the United States of America to vote against this bailout of criminals and to vote for the dissolution of the unconstitutional Federal Reserve System by passing HR 2755. Also please look into the unconstitutional use of the First Brigade Combat Team returning from Iraq in our own nation beginning this day, 10/1/08, for civil matters like the oppression of the citizens in case the nation’s fraudulent money system collapses in violation also of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. The only lawful homeland security defense system is the Second Amendment State Militias of the Armed People which will be mustered immediately if this unconstitutional federal standing army (Art 1 Section 8) is put on the streets of America to slap down citizens placed into the need to defend their lives, liberties and property from a government violating the Constitution and joining in a global banking conspiracy to destroy the United States by bringing it under the power of a tyrannical ruthless band of international financiers. Sincerely, R. F. A. -- Screw Reality....
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Oct 4, 2008 6:57 AM
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Well Congress and the President have spoken and we are saddled with 5.5 tril Bush gave the wealthy 4% to begin with (during last eight years) and now another 1.5 trillion for this bail out bill. This is more money than our children and grand children will ever be able to pay. Thank you Washington for saddling us & them with the most debt ever in history. It all comes from China and other foreign countries and they are going to end up owning and our children homeless in a continent that our fore fathers conquered. Who is bailing out 96% of Americans, the middle class & poor? Who have to choose daily between food for the table, gas for the car and RX drugs to stay healthy. With inflation, devalue of the dollar and the war on labor during last 8 years, the average middle class family has seen their income go down $9,800. I said if this bill goes through, anyone that voted YES does not get my vote, so I am voting third party, even though my vote will not count. I am also refusing to pay a dime for this bailout. If they try to take my property, I will fight! These elitist bastards in Wash and Wall St. are overlooking one thing: 170 million guns in our hands, when there is just a little over a million troops and cops That gives the people 168 million edge. They keep pushing us the revolution is on. This bailout amounts to fraud and the biggest theft of taxpayer dollars in history. Due to Wash being broken, it is also taxation without representation.
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Oct 1, 2008 3:28 AM
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Is our president making deal after deal in the White House with his oil buddies, feathering his nest for his future at our expense, and ignoring the middle class. GWB only cares about what's good for GWB. Our soldiers die every day far away from home, fighting a war he created. I say alone meaning the oil magnates that got GWB into office. Of course Al Gore isn't any better. He's using his book about the farcial "GLOBAL WARMING" effect we have. How many fear venders do we need? Obama doesn't seem to be the answer. His ideas are way out there in left field. We've hit an impasse in national leadership, with all contenders looking to win so they can cash in on the deals available to presidents only. What ever happened to: " Ask not what your country can do for you, But ask What you can do for your country" ? I Guess I'm outdated.... I still believe in this country being the best, with the people in it who have the best to give to the rest of the world. Instead, we have leaders scheming to make billions from us as they destroy our livelihoods.
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Sep 30, 2008 12:38 PM
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I think the biggest problem main street will have is 401Ks losing money, and difficulty obtaining loans for houses, cars, etc. The upside is that oil prices will drop. I don't think failure to enact a bailout will cripple us, nor do I think we will not see some problems. I just maintain that bailing out wall street is the wrong way to go. We may need a shake up to come to our senses about living within our means, and re-evaluating what we need as opposed to what we want. Even the experts agree that the bailout is not a guarantee that the problem will go away. There will have to be a complete overhaul in the way we do business. Giving house loans to people who really cannot afford them has caused a lot of the foreclosures. Then there is the total and utter lack of regulation. We have lived a lot of years under the Repub mantra that no regulation is a good thing....and look what happened. To sum it up...I am glad the bailout went down in flames, but am sure the politicians will find a way to push it through....and there will go $700 BILLION dollars to prop up the fat cats....all while telling us it is for our own good. How many times have we been told that?
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Sep 30, 2008 11:50 AM
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If the message to bail out is accepted, then all business should be given the same oppurtunities. As we know this will never happen. I believe these multimillionare CEOS would never but their own money at risk.then they should be responsible like convicted drug dealers and confiscate all their assets.
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Sep 23, 2008 10:36 PM
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Hey all, great comments. Hi Connie, good to see you! What is not good is that everything we discussed before about this collapse and meltdown of the US economy seems to be coming true! Definately not a happy camper about that. Hey, check this out: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_sMKXQyytFQ "Bush - Wall Street got drunk" You will want to pull your hair out at a Bush money raiser as he and his cronies are laughing about the mess we are in. He also says he is selling the Crawford Ranch (stupid americans believed I was a cowboy, when I bought this just to trick them) and is buying a mansion in Dallas!
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Sep 22, 2008 9:20 AM
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We are being bullied into supporting this huge grab of tax monies by the super greedy crowd by dire warning that if we do not give them billions of our dollars, we will be mired in another depression. I am so sick of it that I am almost ready to say..."so what". Maybe we need another tale of people jumping from windows on Wall Street to wake the American citizens to what is going on. The average working American has learned to live on less and less as our fearless leaders have grown fat with bad trade deals that lined only their pockets, etc ....while our jobs were disapearing and being outsourced. What will it take to make people see that this administration (and both sides of the aisle) do NOT put the welfare of the USA first? Yes, I am venting. I am fed up. We are sheep to slaughter.
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Sep 21, 2008 10:53 AM
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pretendeer....there were no 'mistakes'...it was all in the planning. And you are so right about the New World Order!!! Ya know...some people actually still believe that the government still owns the Federal Reserve. LOL!!! We haven't owned that for many years. And they call US crazy!! -- Screw Reality....
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Sep 21, 2008 10:43 AM
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I have been hearing the same thing for awhile now and our future generations are going to be stuck with all these governmental mistakes, made by our so-called leaders. I think all of them have been cloned for the New World Order! -- Because, that's just the way it is!
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Re: Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Sep 21, 2008 10:37 AM
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Hey Branson!!! I couldn't agree more. It's just a farce to get people to believe the worse...so the government has yet another way to 'take control' over our every day lives. And the average citizen is falling for it...hook, line and sinker. When will they learn?? -- Screw Reality....
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Anyone else think this bail out is outrageous?
Sep 21, 2008 1:53 AM
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Bush, McCain and Phil Gramm brokered the "Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000" and the "Gramm-McCain-Leach Finance Deregulation Act of 2001". These Acts from the Republican controlled White House and Congress have created this financial market meltdown which is the worst economic disaster since the great depression of the 30's. To get richer and richer, the greedy CEO's, Executives who made hundreds of billions of dollars while picking the pockets of middle class & poor and laughing all the way to the bank. Shouldn't these elitist bastards bail out wall street, banks and corporations? Now Bush wants us taxpayers to bail out this disaster since it was the neocons and greedy who got us into this meltdown with fraudulent, shoddy sub prime loans and inflated property values and exploding mortgages! According to him, these very rich sharks are allowed to walk away with billions and not have to answer for anything. AIG CEO gets to keep 97 million, Exxon Mobile CEO gets to keep 400 million, as examples! But no! Bush wants us and our children and grand children for decades to be saddled with debt and pay back these shoddy outrageous mortgages and loans. To hell with you Mr. Bush, you planned all of this for your new world order and any politician that votes along with you for this bailout package does not have my vote. Just when I though we have seen the worst of fraud, have not the middle class and poor been financial crucified enough with high gas, necessity, heating inflated prices? Who is bailing us out? Anyone else angry?
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