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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Oct 2, 2008 5:15 PM
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Hello bella! Yes, I was well aware of it, and certainly the recent fall-out. That is some really ugly stuff, don't you think? Some very good hard-working people have lost just about everything. It is very sad.
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 26, 2008 4:52 PM
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oh, ok wilma -- i see -- you weren't lost about the topic jena brought up but you were lost as to why jena brought it up.
i think if you've pm'd jena then you know the answer now 
((i misread your post and figured you didn't know about the 700 billion dollar bail out issue.))
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 26, 2008 12:57 AM
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> ahhh...Jena...do you have the 'election blues?'
> You are kind of freaking me out here, as this is a
> bit , well, out there.
> Perhaps I am wrong and am missing the point. I must
> admit that you've rather lost me here. Would you
> please help a gal out?
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> wilma, i think that you're from canada -- so that
> might let jena (and me, and others) forgive your
> having asked this question.
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> (ie, the 700 billion dollar bail out of
> banks/insurance companies by the US gov't on the US
> taxpayers dime, when the US taxpayers are the ones
> who were getting screwed over to begin
> withwouldn't matter all that much to you)
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> --
> anonymous:
> "I like Paranormal State!"
> [Crickets chirping as tumbleweeds blow by]
bella, we Canadians are more than well aware of the US government's actions & such, and certainly have been as bombarded with the info in regard to the longest Presidential campaign in the history of the world. I was just taken off guard with my buddy's post that went a bit off-topic. I have been in contact with my buddy Jena through PMs, and I have told him that I completely understand his frustration.
At the risk of this post going quietly into the night, you must understand that Canada is not exactly an obscure country - not to mention the fact that just about every country on the planet is well aware of the US and the political plays.
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 24, 2008 11:17 PM
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ahhh...Jena...do you have the 'election blues?' You are kind of freaking me out here, as this is a bit , well, out there.
Perhaps I am wrong and am missing the point. I must admit that you've rather lost me here. Would you please help a gal out?
wilma, i think that you're from canada -- so that might let jena (and me, and others) forgive your having asked this question.
(ie, the 700 billion dollar bail out of banks/insurance companies by the US gov't on the US taxpayers dime, when the US taxpayers are the ones who were getting screwed over to begin withwouldn't matter all that much to you)
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 24, 2008 10:49 PM
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> >>the paranormal field is rife with them, and they
> have easy targets for their market. <<
>
> And so does the secretary of the treasury, Henry
> Paulson. Nationalism, fascism, we are HERE! Holy
> cramoly!
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> If his plan is implemented it means simply business
> as usual for a short time as the value of the dollar
> plummets even further as a result and the people
> (Bush admin and cronies) that got us into this mess
> will be the only people to benefit... with little IF
> ANY oversight!
>
> Contact your local elected official and tell them not
> to let this happen! NOW!
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> --
> --I'm all in favour of keeping dangerous weapons out
> of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters.
> - Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
ahhh...Jena...do you have the 'election blues?' You are kind of freaking me out here, as this is a bit , well, out there.
Perhaps I am wrong and am missing the point. I must admit that you've rather lost me here. Would you please help a gal out?
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 23, 2008 3:30 PM
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>>the paranormal field is rife with them, and they have easy targets for their market. <<
And so does the secretary of the treasury, Henry Paulson. Nationalism, fascism, we are HERE! Holy cramoly!
If his plan is implemented it means simply business as usual for a short time as the value of the dollar plummets even further as a result and the people (Bush admin and cronies) that got us into this mess will be the only people to benefit... with little IF ANY oversight!
Contact your local elected official and tell them not to let this happen! NOW!
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 23, 2008 9:06 AM
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A grifter is an individual who only looks to take advantage of people...good honest people, simply to make fast cash.
the paranormal field is rife with them, and they have easy targets for their market.
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 19, 2008 10:30 PM
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I cannot believethat the post that I made last night - another very good one - was sent quietly into the night, like nobody's business. I would sincerely like to know why,as I see absolutely no excuse/reason for such a thing to happen.
Actually, there are many very good posts - made by some very good writers - who have had their posts removed. What a world on these so called discussion boards.
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 18, 2008 7:49 PM
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Glad to see I' m not the only one.
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 18, 2008 9:58 AM
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ah, bella
You claim that all that is Psychic is untrue.
i do? and just where do i make that claim? please copy/paste with post header. thanks.
You are so afraid of your experience that you can not allow that experience to be real.
you don't know me and you don't know what i have or have not experienced.
To you everything Psychic/Paranormal does not or should not exist.
where on earth did you get that impression? maybe "on earth" is the key part of my question....
Your belief system is so narrow and filled with fear that you can not accept anything beyond it. To you it has to all be untrue.
you're wrong, but thanks for all of your doctor philesque efforts.
That people have Psychic experiences, to you is untrue.
nope. i very much do believe that THEY believe that their experiences are 'psychic'. (most of them, not the charlatans who are in it only for the money)
That people, yes even you, have and use Psychic abilities every day, to you this is untrue.
i guess you'd have to give a solid definition of "psychic abilities" in context with any statement that i've made stating that this is untrue. which, of course, you can't.
That I have taught children and adults to experience and use their Psychic abilities, to you is untrue.
oh, i don't doubt that you think you're teaching them to "use their psychic abilities", among other things.
That a person goes to college to learn to teach children, to you is untrue.
why are you making so much stuff up about me, roger? of course people go to college to learn to educate children. but they don't go to college to learn how to teach kids "psychic" experiences. at least, not an accredited college that offers a valid degree.
That I can help people regain the Psychic abilities they had as children, to you is untrue.
you have me there!
That the experiences shown on the PK program to you are untrue.That Coffey and Miller do an outstanding job in helping people bravely face their fears of the unknown, to you is not true.
ok, you also have me there on both of those!
For children and adults to be able to control Psychic abilities, to you is not true.
if they had them, i have no doubt they'd be able to learn to control them.
Psychic abilities to you, can not exist, for you can not see the truth due to your traumatized, terrified, full of fear, narrow mind and belief system. To you we are all victims in this, our existence, so any thought or training to control our existence, can not exist.
bold mine, above. it's interesting that all people who can't answer direct questions about their so-called psychic abilities and educational backgrounds/qualifications often accuse the person asking the questions of being afraid of something.
i've never said psychic abilities can not exist. but from what i have SEEN on TV, the examples that i've been shown -- they do not exist in ANY of those examples, that's for sure.
your psychobabble is waaaaay off the mark, roger.
i'm sorry i upset you by questioning your qualifications to teach children anything, let alone "psychic" abilities.
actually, i'm not
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 14, 2008 8:25 PM
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Bella
If you don't like the message, try to kill the messenger?
hardly.
When that is your rebuttal, it shows that you know what I am saying is true and that you only speak through your fear of an unknown.
absolutely untrue. nothing you're saying is true and i am not afraid of "the unknown".
You ask me for my qualifications, but do not state yours that would qualify you to sit in judgement?
i'm not making claims of anything. i don't claim to be an expert on teaching kids to do really, really strange things. and whatnot.
People that post on this series of sites are sincere in their common personal experience of Psychic encounters. They are the brave ones, looking through their unknown in a personal search for questions to ask, and answers to question or accept.
really? i think you're on the wrong portion of this forum.
My qualifications? I was a college prof for 25 years, with 5 years of teaching Art K thru 12 as a master teacher,
what on earth is a "master teacher" ??
art K-12? why would you be a college professor and then switch to young children?
that's very, very bizarre.
along with 265 credit hours beyond my BA in Art Education; including a 60 credit hour Certification in Hypnotherapy. My College teaching Art Education speciality was in Educational Psychology teaching "Child Growth and Perceptual Development", which I taught at Perdue Univ. as head of the Department of Art Education.
oh, well there you go -- you give an actual school. purdue.
only you spelled your school's name incorrectly.
heh.
whatever - again, a college. which does not qualify you for teaching young children. (ie, 8- 18)
My Hypno speciality is controlling the perceptions of the body through self-hypnosis. That is, teaching a person to control their pain, blood flow and loss and promote rapid healing during and after surgical operations.
This Academic Education plus my own experiences
give me a view of Psychic Encounters that authenticates them as a valid, real experience. It is easy to hide behind negative fear statements and verbally abuse those folks who are bravely facing the unknown, asking for positive answers to real experiences.
Be in Harmony, walk in beauty
Roger33
i rest my case.
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 13, 2008 6:13 PM
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Yes Bella, You are starting to understand. The referrals you indicate are just optical illusions; if you stop there and only look at the surface; but you can experience them. You are correct to identify them as gateways for remote viewing. Look at them, using this technique to enter the gateway. Hold the picture at arms length. Focus tightly on a center point within them as you bring the picture toward your eyes. About 4 to 6 inches from your eyes, You will be able to "go into the pictures" as a remote viewing experience within the art. These are fun to go into for they float around you. You can even morph with them. It is like joining the flock of morphing butterflies, or birds, or swimming with a school of morphing fish where you can morph and swim with them. There is a feeling of free-ness in the experience that you don't get very often in art. My students enjoyed morphing even more than I did.
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 13, 2008 5:24 PM
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Bella,
What is your reason that I should have made a big deal over teaching young artists to extend their perception. Do you understand how perception works? The eyes look and see. It is the minds that control the meaning of what we see. That meaning plus the seeing is perception. What we perceive about an object is not just looking at it but seeing/perceiving involves the minds to interpret its meaning for us; our past association and trained responses. Is this object a danger or is it not a danger? Can I eat it? Will it eat me? Is the shade iof this tree safe for me. The purpose of art is to record these perceptions, to say do you perceive what I perceive. Remote viewing is just a small facet of perception. It is another ability of our minds to make a complete evaluation. I suspect it is a holdover of a survival skill our species developed to Sense/see/perceive what was around the bend, behind the bush or in the tree. We use it all the time to locate misplaced things. "Where did I[ put that?" Then you visualize all the places where it might be, and start to physicaly investigate each one to find where it might be. The visualizing is remote viewing.
Art is visualizing and recording that visualization. To understand the object as much as you can; to be able to identify with that object enables the artist to draw it with accuracy and clarity. When I had my students draw an orange, I would pass out sections of orange with the peel, so they could touch it, taste it, smell it, then draw and/or paint it as they "perceive" it. When we drew from a live model I had them assume the model's pose for two minuits, so they could identify with the tension of the bodies muscles and further understand what they were seeing and being able to identify with it.
Remote Viewing is just an extension of perception. It was not hidden, just accepted as fact. My students would teach their parents the technique of entering a painting, just as they taught the guards at the Detroit Museum. To look at a painting from the inside out is to understand more of the Artist's intent and to "perceive" the painting, not just see it.
You seem to want it to be mystical and there not for "just people" to use. To me and many others it a natural ability of sensing, like hearing, or touching, or tasting.
Have you heard of the School for the Blind in Mexico City, and another in China that teaches it's students to use the power of the mind to re-route the "seeing" sensory pathways to other parts of the body, like hands and face? In essence they are teaching constant Remote Viewing.
Which brings up another question I have. What is it about the Psychic Abilities that frightens you so? I believe that every-one has "the" abilities. The learned conditioning from those in authority: parents, religion, teachers, and even attitudes of a peer group, and our personal experiences as we interpret them in the light of all the other factors, determine how we perceive. To accept something new or different expands our perception of who we are and what we can further perceive. Of all the psychic abilities, receiving/perceiving mental connections is the easiest for the untrained mind. Controlling, stopping the perceptual receiving is the focus of Chip Coffey. The next step is to control "what you see" with what you wish to communicate with and to project "thought images" to those of interest to you. If you can perceive the energy of spirits, you can perceive the energy images of young children, animals, trees, plants and with practice adults and to all those that contain energy. You do have control of what you see/hear/perceive and you do have control of your ability to exchange thought/communication energy with all that you can see/hear/perceive.
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 10, 2008 12:50 PM
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8-18 huh. interesting.
The program was very successsful so no one questioned my methods.
i'm thinking someone should have. was your 'class' a very private thing -- not subject to public scrutiny?
The mind is the thought, picturing or visual recognizing of objects as the result of a organized electrical and chemical energy. This is proven science.
They are also minds as our cell-selves: skin and other organs of the body make up a communal mind. The liquid in our body also is a mind, holding coded electrical energy, chemicals, photons and frequencies.
i....can't... ...breathe......
If you want to experience this, here is a simple excercise.
it's just a simple optical illusion. there are lots and lots of optical illusions. nothing 4th dimensional woo about them.
as an artist, i'm sure you've heard of escher. here, check out this wiki page -- i'm sure you'll get lots more "woo exercises" for your "work".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_illusion
Enjoy this trip
no trip for me as i'm afraid i don't partake in the same things you probably partake in....
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Re: How to stop the voices in your head...
Sep 10, 2008 10:47 AM
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>>You have just experienced the fourth dimension of time through a remote viewing exercise;<<
LOL! This is nothing more than a natural occurring illusion and imagination and what you claim has nothing to do with truth or actuality within a "fourth dimension".
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