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(175 of 175)
Sep 8, 2008 1:48 AM
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i havent been in here in awhile so i know my comments are late. but i just cant believe that corey h. really thought that feldman would show up to meet him! first of all why would ch even want to bother with cf? i mean he has done nothing but put ch down and talk about him behind his back. so ch has problems. which of us dont? as i said before i have been taking anti-anxiety pills for almost 2 years now and i have been on vicodin for 3. granted i only take one a day but i do get that they are addicting. i went thru that with my son when he was still alive. it is a hard thing to get over, especially when pills can be gotten so easily. i truly thought that when i moved to a small town in texas that my son would get clean but he found someone almost right away to supply his pills. i just so hope that ch can get straight before it is too late. i would hate to see his mom go thru what i go thru everyday after losing my son.
my first piece of advice would be to get a better therapist. this lady is just crap! after that screaming episode that she watched with the feldmans, and she hardly berated them at all. and she is always getting into ch's **it. and not in a good way! i know he doesnt need to be coddled but her approach isnt any better. just get rid of her. and while they are at it get rid of the nagging wife. i never did get what she had to with the show. i dont need to see her getting her pic in playboy or laying half naked on a desk and i sure didnt need to see her posing for that peta ad. obviously someone likes her but i guess anyone can look good with plastic surgery! i just thought this show was the 2 coreys, why is she even there? if she is gonna be in it go the whole way and put the kid in instead of acting like they dont even have one. they talk more about there dog than the kid! guess they dont have their priorities straight either, huh?
and obviously ch isnt ready to talk about the real truth or at least not to that stupid therapist. maybe if he had a decent therapist he would open up and that would be the best thing of all!
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Aug 18, 2008 9:29 PM
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Rock on Prowlerlimits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From:
Los Angeles
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(173 of 175)
Aug 18, 2008 9:06 PM
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Regarding the counselor, Haim and opening up.
Haim uttered a key sentence in the finale "There are things I haven't told anyone."
What's key about this sentence isn't its content. We all could guess at that. THAT's not information.
What's key is that saying "There's things I haven't told anyone" is in and of itself opening up.
I wonder how many times that has come up in therapy sessions and how it was reacted to. What I saw here was the therapist reacting to him saying something which was giving a bit of an opening to relate to him with aggression and by invalidating his invitation to openness. The attack was immediate, though that could be the editing.
Why would he open up further if "There's things I haven't told anyone" is responded to as we saw the therapist do in the episode? And before anyone says "she's a professional she knows what she's doing," whatever she was doing obviously didn't work, professional or no. In my admittedly layperson on a messageboard's opinion, that whole conversation was doomed to be unproductive even if Haim were far more emotionally healthy than he actually is.
(Standard Reality Show Disclaimers Apply)
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Kentucky
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(172 of 175)
Aug 18, 2008 4:37 PM
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As far as the Counselor, Go Lady Go! Haim needs to open up to her and release his demons. On TV nope but in a private session with her...
Haim Need the straight in his face approach to get him to release and open up.........Face the facts People..........shew what is wrong with this world...........hehe.......
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From:
Washington
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8/18/08
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Aug 18, 2008 2:52 PM
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> Aginwa. I agree with you again! 100%. yeah..that
> woman is definitely NOT the best therapist for him. I
> hope they shop for better. I know therapist's who
> just shake their heads at that woman and how she
> handles things. You don't tell the guy..you are
> deliberating picking women who will leave you. That's
> not what he is doing at all. I think more of the
> problems is he feels unworthy to have a good
> relationship because of the way he feels about
> himself. And you know, what? He may actually be
> right. He really can't get into a relationship until
> he's clean of drugs and ready. Feldman and Haim have
> something more worth salvaging than what Feldman and
> Susia have--hard to believe but it's true. Drug
> addiction or not, I think Haim is a really
> good-hearted loving and sincere person who deserves
> to be treated with respect for being humble enough to
> sincerely apologize when he's wrong and for trying to
> get himself straight. A real friend would not snicker
> and scoff and a realy wife who is caring would not
> encourage that. I haven't seen Corey Haim do anything
> that warrants the treatment old Suz has thrown at
> him. On the other hand, he has pretty much been
> classy to her, who doesn't return the favor.
It is my sincere hope that Haim or Nell are reading these comments to see just how much support he really has.
It's amazing how bad some people, esp would be friends, can make you feel.
I don't believe that Haim deserves the treatment he has received and honestly I feel he is much better off without those two dragging him down. I would hate to see the show get cancelled but if it would help him along then it would be worth it. Sure he has an issue with 'meds' but I think he can overcome that.
When I first started watching the show last season I thought it was a great idea. I remember growing up in the midst of their popularity and thinking how awesome they were together. I always considered Haim to be the more talented of the two but they were/are a dynamite team. It's sad how quickly Feldman forgot (largely due to his over bearing wife) where he came from.
I know Feldman is worried about Haim but he needs to quit pushing as well as get his wife out of the equation and just be his friend. It is possible to have friends and/or a life outside of your wife. I managed just fine when I was married as did my wife. Some people worry that doing that creates a rift and problems ensue. That wasn't the case for us at all, in fact it helped us get along more than anything. When we did get a divorce it had more to do with my many deployments than anything else.
Truly the show is what it is due in large part to Haim. Take him out of the equation and it will flop.
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Aug 18, 2008 2:21 PM
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Aginwa. I agree with you again! 100%. yeah..that woman is definitely NOT the best therapist for him. I hope they shop for better. I know therapist's who just shake their heads at that woman and how she handles things. You don't tell the guy..you are deliberating picking women who will leave you. That's not what he is doing at all. I think more of the problems is he feels unworthy to have a good relationship because of the way he feels about himself. And you know, what? He may actually be right. He really can't get into a relationship until he's clean of drugs and ready. Feldman and Haim have something more worth salvaging than what Feldman and Susia have--hard to believe but it's true. Drug addiction or not, I think Haim is a really good-hearted loving and sincere person who deserves to be treated with respect for being humble enough to sincerely apologize when he's wrong and for trying to get himself straight. A real friend would not snicker and scoff and a realy wife who is caring would not encourage that. I haven't seen Corey Haim do anything that warrants the treatment old Suz has thrown at him. On the other hand, he has pretty much been classy to her, who doesn't return the favor.
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From:
Washington
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8/18/08
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(169 of 175)
Aug 18, 2008 1:45 PM
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What's up with the Feldman's anyway? I mean, I've noticed it and I know others have noticed it as well.
But, they sure do talk smack about Haim; such two
faced people they are.
Being a vet I know more than many the value of trust in your friends/partners/battle buddies. The sophmoric banter between the Feldman's and their cronies denigrating Haim are truly a display of the kind of friend he really is.
I am glad it was displayed for all to see.
I hold no illusion about the problems Haim faces and oftetimes brings to the table but I haven't see the same juvenile antics from him that the Feldman's have displayed. Everything he's said has been to their faces. Makes it more than obvious who the bigger man is.
"Suzie's remarks showed truely flawed character. She was spiteful, hateful and dismissive. I cannot
believe after seeing her behavior and hearing her
comments that she wants anything for Haim other than to see him fall flat on his face. "
It's obvious that she wants to see him fall. I wonder if she's afraid because she knows that if Haim gets his act together he could easily eclipse Feldman.
I know she's his wife and he should support her but at some point he needs to tell her to back off and deal with things himself.
Oh and that 'counselor' needs to go as well. Where did they find her anyway?
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Aug 18, 2008 12:50 PM
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The therapist did say a few episodes ago, that she has been there herself and she is a recovering addict. She seems pretty knowledgeable to me. Some people, including some of the fans just don't like to hear the truth. That's what she is trying to do, help him. Does'nt seem like anybody has been able to so far. So, I would'nt say she's a joke.
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From:
Detroit Mich
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8/17/08
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(167 of 175)
Aug 18, 2008 11:23 AM
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You know I don't know how old some of the people responding on here are but SOME of them come off as little children in their comments and not to mention cruel and cold. What Corey Haim is going through is VERY common it's just not advertised. And I agree with some of what fast Eddie said below, both Corey's need to handle this them selves WITHOUT Susie's in put for the time being, but lets get real here it's NOT going to get settled on TV, and that Doctor is a down right joke. I'm not saying that to be mean at all but it's a very well known fact that the ONLY type of therapist that can help is one thats been their them selves. 95% of therapist are recovered drug addicts and those ones have been there done that so to speak so their more prone to what people are going through and whats yet to come. I heard when the cameras were supposed to be turned off that Corey is taking Vicodin that drug when abused becomes not only a physical dependency but a mental one as well. Corey Haim needs people around him thats going to stand by him through the long haul through thick and thin and NO way in hell is he going to open up to that doc he has now.....why? For one because he don't trust her...she belittles him...she talks down to him, she comes off as shes better than anyone, really good therapist don't do that at all. In my opinion shes only in it for the exposure of being on TV thats very apparent. And not to put anyone down BUT unless you've gone through what Corey Haim's going through no amount of explaining is going to make you understand, and people really shouldn't judge someone when their not up to others standards because you never know when YOU could be the one going through the same exact thing, NO ONE plans on getting addicted to drugs it creeps up on you, like in Corey's case with the vicodin, thats NOT a drug anyone plans on getting hooked on. IF he had planned on becoming an addict he would of chose meth,cocaine,heroin or crack but still no one sets out to get addicted. When someones prescribed vicodin it's usually for some sort of pain and before you know it the doctors recommended dose doesn't work as well so the doctor increases the dose and so on and so on. This all takes place over a period of time NOT over night, the mental control of this drug is VERY strong and NOT to be taken lightly, (Vicodin is a weakened pill form of heroin it's in the opiate family. Look it up online and see for your self) and before you know it you've become and addict and for quiet some time the person doesn't even realize their an addict even though it's very apparent to others, BUT the person taking the drugs HAS to admit to them selves that there addicted before they can even begin getting help by admitting your addicted is the first step in recovery.........I know from personal experience I was taking up to 30 plus vicodin's a DAY before I finally admitted that I had a problem. The thing is that there's NO easy fix, just flushing the pills WON'T fix the problem but that is a start. He's going to need his TRUE friends and family to help him through this and I'll be honest here he's going to put them through hell while detoxing but the thing to remember is DON'T give up on him and while detoxing the urge to get pills is going to be overwhelming to Corey, like I said it's just as much of a mental addiction so he's going to need someone there 24/7!! And Susie if your reading this I'm truly NOT trying to be mean BUT if you truly love Corey F. take a step back and let him help Corey Haim without you, the reason I say that is because you being there during this could cloud his judgement (your husbands) and he wouldn't be able to focus on helping Corey through this cause he'd be worried about you, thats not saying at all that your not number ONE in his life but by stepping back for awhile and letting him help his friend through this will in turn after alls said and done would bring you both so much closer, standing by your husband through thick and thin even means swallowing your pride if it's something you disagree about but you know deep in your heart he needs and wants to be there for Corey Haim, but don't take my word for it just step back and see for your self.
I wish all three of you all the best but for goodness sake something like this really shouldn't be handled on TV, unless you guys JUST tape it for now and Air it once every things fixed and your all back to some sort of normalcy.
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canada
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(166 of 175)
Aug 7, 2008 1:55 PM
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You're "so over her"
uh-huh...interesting...
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Aug 7, 2008 12:27 PM
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I dont blame Haim for getting upset either. He told Feldman no. And Susie is doing nothing but pi**ing me off! She needs to stay out of it! Period! Why was she even at the little meeting with the two Coreys, Pauly and Todd? I am sooo over her. Somebody get her off the show! lol Just kidding!
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Aug 7, 2008 9:21 AM
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You're right DBS.
Bagoas, if Haim is gay, who cares? The way that you posted that had a hint that being gay was some sort of handicap...some sort of character flaw. What were you thinking?
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From:
Toronto
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Aug 7, 2008 3:40 AM
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Bagoas, i'm all for you expressing your own opinion here, but accusing someone of being gay in the rude way that you did is just completely disrespectful to any human.
If he is, it is no one's business but his own until he choses to make it public and even then - it's still his business. What's so wrong with being gay anyway?
Welcome to the 21st century!
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From:
Hollywood
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6/23/08
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Aug 6, 2008 4:55 PM
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What she said about Haim's mom is true. So why shouldn't she have said it? Susie is an intergral part of the show and I for one am glad when it's just her and Feldman on. Haim drags the entire show down with his addict antics, drama queen attitude (if you people didn't already know he was gay before this you can surely tell now by the way he acts) and lack of interest in anything not centered on his own selfish self.
Read what Feldman said is his blog this week. Haim knew what was coming and pretended he didn't. You could tell it was all an act and a pretty poor job, as usual, of acting by Haim.
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From:
Philladelphia,Pa
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7/21/08
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Aug 6, 2008 3:52 AM
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The whole episode was just crazy but what really pissed me off was Susie. Why does she always have a comment like if someone asked her? That was so wrong what she sayed t Haim and about his mom. She needed to get her but back in the car and shut up. And yeah she does have bad hair lol
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