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(11 of 11)
Feb 13, 2008 12:37 PM
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I was watching the Nathaniel Abraham case and i feel that at 11 years old he knew the difference! When I was 11 I took a necklace from my grandma because I "wanted" it. I knew it was wrong but I didn't think I would get caught. Point being that he knew what he did was wrong and now he is back on the streets for a year now to possibly repeat his offenses. I feel that adolescent children under the age of 8 or 9 shouldn't be tried as adults but any older than that they know better!
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United States
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1/18/08
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(10 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Jan 18, 2008 6:23 PM
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I have a nephew who died from drugs sold at his high school from a guy there. I always have believed "Old enough to do the crime, Old enough to do the time". My 16 year old nephews life was cut short because of this. The guy who sold him the drugs got probation had stated to other kids at school that they 'were old drugs and you had to take double to get the desired effect'. He was 16 at the time he sold the drugs, which he had gotten from his mom and grandmother. He was 17 when he went to trial. I just hope that some kids learn from this and do not do drugs. My nephew paid the ultimate sacrifice, the guy who sold him the drugs got probation. He will have to live with this forever, knowing that because of him, a kid died.
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4/9/07
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(9 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Apr 14, 2007 11:57 PM
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When Cody Posey (NM) was tried, the judge decided whether Cody would be sanctioned as an adult of juvenile after the verdict. During the penalty phase, the judge made it clear that, IF cody was amenable to rehabilitation, he would have no choice other than to sanction Cody as a juvenile.
Cody was sanctioned as a juvenile and will be released when he is 21.
He was found guilty of the 1st degree murder of his 13 year old step-sister, 2nd degree murder of his step-mother and manslaughter of his father.
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From:
Virginia
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3/13/07
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(8 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Mar 13, 2007 5:14 PM
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I think it also depends on the age and the crime. A 17 year old kid murdering someone is an adult, but a 7 year old discharging Daddy's gun sure as hell isn't.
But on that note, I think the age at which a "child" becomes an adult is getting younger and younger and once you hit roughly 12, you can be tried as an adult if you've done a serious crime and are mentally capapble of understanding what you've done.
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Wisconsin
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1/11/07
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(7 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Jan 12, 2007 2:14 PM
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I don't believe that all kids should be tried as an adult. In the case of Nathanial Abraham, he was obviously effected by his enviornment and was misguided. It would be rediculous to send a him to prison for 25 years and then release him when he hasn't had any rehabilition. He is far more likely to commit another crime then, than if he was sent to juvie and was helped. At such a young and influencial age he can be rehabilitated. If he could be influenced by his enviornment so much as to shot someone, there is no doubt in my mind that he can be rehabilitated. I don't think this murder was premeditated. Sure he had told his girl friend that he was going to shot someone. It's doubtful that he was actually serious about that. Many kids joke around about crimes like that, especially in that kind of a neighborhood. It was stated by an expert witness that the gun was broken and that it would have been extremely hard for a child, that has not been trained to shoot a gun, to shoot so accurately from such a distance. Lets think logically and not just out of rage.
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Dale City, VA
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1/11/07
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(6 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Jan 11, 2007 5:24 PM
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In my opinion, I think if a child commits an adult crime then they should get the same sentence as an adult. Especially when the child tells his/her girl/boy friend that they are going to do the crime and then brag to their friends after the fact. To me that showes they know what they are doing and they don't care if they get caught. It's getting crazy on how many children are killing other kids and adults. We need to show them that if they are grown enough to kill then they have to go to jail and pay for their crimes(s). No more light treatments for minors or teenagers, they are taking advantage of it because they know that their sentense will be in Juvie and most of those facilities are cake walks. I've talked to several teens that have went and they had a blast....their words, not mine. We can't let them keep hurting our loved ones and innocent children and people!!!!!!!
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Florida
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11/28/06
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(5 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Nov 28, 2006 1:52 PM
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I agree commpletely. No matter what the crime is. Though each person matures at different rates, that still should not impact the outcome of a crime. If the minor did the crime, he/she should be charged as any other person would be. Age should not be a factor.
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1/3/06
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(4 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Jan 3, 2006 1:09 PM
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By the time the case goes to trial (1 to 2 years),
They learn right from wrong. That won't cut it
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9/20/05
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(3 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Oct 4, 2005 9:20 PM
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I guess the prosecutor could ask the child the basics of right and wrong.... such as is stealing right or wrong. If the child can understand the basics of right and wrong then the sob story wouldn't work too well.
I believe that most children know the difference between right and wrong... especially those in their teens. It doesn't matter what the background is basic values are instilled through the school system in the most basic rules. Some parents may not instill values of what is right or wrong, but it is taught in school. It is taught in history... basic crime and punishment... in Government. Simple rules of what is not allowed in schools instills what is right and what is wrong. Maybe not certain deep issues... but the basics are taught.
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6/29/05
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(2 of 11)
Re: Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Oct 1, 2005 6:26 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree. But let's say the kid's lawyer pulls the "he didn't know right from wrong" sob story. How would you know if he was lying?
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9/22/05
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(1 of 11)
Old enough to do the crime, old enough to do the time.
Sep 22, 2005 8:04 PM
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From the time a child is old enough to know right from wrong, and able to choose right over wrong, they are old enough to be tried as one responsible for the crime.
Mr. B.
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